Thoughts on social networks and aging

August 25th, 2010 | Leave a comment

I’ve been thinking a lot about my mother lately.

She’s 91 years old. Healthy. Spunky with a large extended family of kids, grand kids and great grand kids. There are people all around in her retirement community. In spite of this she appears lonely and bored…achingly so at times.

I sense she feels isolated from her past and trapped in an ever-shrinking present. Not abandoned certainly–but friendships and networks outside of immediate family that come to visit are just not there. And there is little productive to do.

Her communities, once very large, are evaporating. Connections outside of the family are gone mostly. And to someone whose father drove a horse drawn cab in NYC at her birth, computers are just not truly a part of who she is.

And she is not unique, but an example of many who live between the extended family structure of the immigrant family and the social reality of a networked world that many of us inhabit.

For most of us, social networks have flattened the world and community has taken on new forms, providing a huge umbrella of support. We have Facebook walls, niche interest groups, blog communities, and offline/online connections. We have numerous lingering touch points with contacts and friends in a way that my mother never had.

This is not about richness of life…my mother’s life has been very rich. It’s about something new and extraordinary that the social web has empowered. This ability to create community as a hedge against location, a hedge against aging to some degree and certainly…a hedge against isolation as it engenders friendships in new ways.

My mother’s world has been one of astonishing change…world wars, the great depression, air travel, empowered middle class, electric powered everything, but for her, it stopped at the networked world. We spring off where she stopped and nothing is more compelling or revolutionary that what the social web empowers around people and friendships and community.

My mother sends (some) emails. Plays computer solitaire…so it is not simply technology where we spring beyond her generation. It’s networks and the social possibilities that are the great chasm here. And while we understand intellectually the power of social and community, my sense is that it is just beginning and its power is just getting tapped.

Maybe when I’m my mother’s age…when the baby boomers succumb to old age…the body will not hold us back as much. And will not create isolation or lack of productivity as our physical reality becomes less limber and more confined.

Science has extended our lives and made the middle of life longer, more productive and not much different from the decades preceding. I’m thinking that a networked and community driven, intertwined off and online world, will extend that even further, enabling connections, productivity and support for an even longer, richer period.

Add the science of health aging to the empowerment of community and socialization in a connected world, and we have something new and powerful. Technology usually evolves from one thing to another. The social web and community is a revolution in how we live better…for far longer.

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  • http://www.victusspiritus.com/ Mark Essel

    Beautiful post Arnold, Bravo!

    Really enjoyed your sentiment and thoughts on community beyond physical location. You and I have never met, yet we are part of a community.

    It's easy to take that for granted, yet it's a fundamental shift in relationships.

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    Thank you!

    Praise from you means a lot to me.

    I really believe that this is true and powerful and important.

    The beauty is that it is both a way to make friends and then connect and continue friendship…and extend friendships separated by space and time. Only makes sense that in a world where life is extended in health, space and time flattened that community as well, needs to be layered into the equation.

  • Philip

    Nice post, Arnold! The advantage we will have is that our ability to communicate, socialize and develop new relationships and interests will not be age-dependent. In fact it it will become completely age-INdependent because our future social interactions will be dictated not by who we physically age with but by whom we have the most interests and passions in common. And if that means more with 35 year olds when we are 2x that age, so what?

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    Thnx Phil

    Let's see…time is flattened. Space is flattened. Communities are flattened. And core interest connect more that socio, political, financial or age categorization.

    Can't help but like this.

  • http://bwasearch.blogspot.com Donna Brewington White

    This is really powerful, Arnold.

    I happen to be a technology convert of sorts. For a long time, I thought technology represented a destructive force on humanity — although I probably wouldn't have said it in quite those words. Now I have become an evangelist of sorts for the social web. People who don't understand it claim that it isolates people, allowing them to function alone in their homes and offices in pseudo-relationships. My social and professional worlds have never been richer. I guess the difference is whether the social web becomes a catalyst for relational interaction or becomes the entire context.

    I do feel for your mother. I understand to some extent. For instance, the internet is something completely different for me than it is for my children. I am an immigrant. They are natives. Yet, I also am reminded that immigrants built this country! :-)

    I can't imagine that the texture of relationship that is meaningful to your mother can be conveyed digitally or through a cloud. I get that. I hope that I don't lose sight of that.

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    Thanks for reading and commenting Donna.

    I feel strongly about this…and it's hard to write about something so close to you as your mother. I felt good getting this down.

    I honestly feel that the social web empowers, connects and adds levels of interconnections that are new to us. I see this daily as I connect with people in the industry, with winemakers from all over the world and with old friends and connections that I finally have a 'place' to hold those friendship over time.

    Maybe it's wishful thinking that I see this strata of community as something that extends productivity and friendship through connections as age creeps in…but I think not.

    BTW–your kids are fortunate to have a mother that is able to play alongside them in this new playground online. Takes 'natives' and 'immigrants' to make it all real!

  • http://www.missi.com/ Peter Beddows

    Very evocative and well expressed Arnold; I believe I can empathize and I'm glad to have found this article by you thanks to a tweet by Donna Brewington White.

    Your words here set me also to reflecting upon how the generations before us through the past 100 years have had such a completely different life experience from those of us who grew up post WWII during which latter time period we have seen and experienced so many radical changes. As you have said “And to someone whose father drove a horse drawn cab in NYC at her birth, computers are just not truly a part of who she is” but that is really an extraordinary understatement in relation to the overall range of change that we have experienced in just the past 60 years alone so little wonder that your Mother and others of her generation, including my own Mother, find themselves “isolated and bored” – perhaps “disconnected” would be a good word to describe this state – at the end of their life span.

    You have made a very profound observation and implicitly raised the questions: What, if anything, can we do about this state for our elderly parents; will we face the same situation in due course and what should we do now while we have all of our faculties to prepare for the eventual loss of friends and familiar experiences; our own inevitable arrival at a state of “isolation and boredom” or will we somehow be spared that conclusion?

    Your phrase “I sense she feels isolated from her past and trapped in an ever-shrinking present” brings up poignant memories of my own Mother who, at 88 lost my Father, her partner for 58 years. Born in Berlin, lived through the depression and rampant inflation in Germany, escaped from the Nazis in '39 to England where she accidentally met my Father who was an officer in the Brit' Navy.

    My Father was one of the first people in the UK to hold an Amateur Radio License and was a double-degreed Engineer – Mining and Metallurgy. He came from an entrepreneurial family and he started a number of businesses in his lifetime and also spent time in the corporate world that included extensive globe-trotting. So he was hardly hiding away in some dark corner during his working life yet he never worked with computers directly and when he first saw my equipment and software, he was totally amazed. It was as if he was looking into a future world that was literally unfathomable to him even though he was a very intelligent, very well educated, worldly wise man.

    In their 60's through until they reached 87, they towed their travel trailer on tours through Europe every year for 6 to 8 weeks at a time. This adventure came to an abrupt halt only after my Mother was mugged and subsequently my Father fell in the bathtub – both situations causing severe bodily harm to them and having extremely hard shock consequences that resulted in my Father's health taking a dramatic downward spiral until he passed away at 88 leaving my Mother now with no other connections to anyone outside of the younger generation of her immediate family. But what made her isolation even more significant was that I and my children had moved to the states several years earlier leaving only my Sister behind in close proximity to care for Mom so her circumstances changed radically and rapidly.

    With this history, by age 30 she had already lost intimate connections to most of the people she knew growing up and had to start finding new friends in a foreign land with a foreign language when she arrived in England. By the time my parents entered their 80's, many of the friendships she had gained in England and the couple of friends she had reconnected with in Germany had also been passing away hence she went through a second round of shrinking relationships to people outside of the family and thus from age 88 through to 93 when she finally passed on, her world shrank dramatically leading to renewed isolation.

    By all appearances she seemed content but it was very hard to tell. She gradually withdrew into herself, reverting to speaking only in German if she spoke at all and otherwise eventually became lost in her own inner world; not Alzheimers but a form of mental withdrawal we typically classify as old age senility. I believe that was her way of coping with the “isolation and boredom” that descended after my Father passed away because they both had shared such an extremely eventful and rich life time together: She held on to the belief that “Johnny will be coming to take me home any day now”.

    The only reason for sharing this history here is simply to demonstrate by example that our respective Mothers, and most likely many other Mothers and Fathers of these earlier generations, while living through some really extraordinary world events, actually otherwise experienced a much more mundane, predictable existence with much closer physical proximity to their friends, in relative terms, than we have: The world that they grew up in is so amazingly different from the world we have inherited so it really could be no surprise if those still of that previous generation who are still living now find themselves not only cut off from familiar faces, places and things to do but also even cut off, isolated, from a world has become unrecognizable to them in the terms of what they came to know as they grew up.

    I'm confident that my wife and I are most likely ahead by at least a few years on the majority responding here but unlike our respective Mothers, we have grown up with familiarity to these amazing changes and we are completely immersed in using all forms of technology for transport, communications and general living. We are also familiar with having very far flung friend and family physical displacements: Our own children and grand children are spread around the country from NJ to MD to NC to CO to NorCal (we are in SoCal) but yet we all regularly connect via Vonage and email plus even Facebook in some cases.

    Nonetheless, I'm not sure yet how the two of us here will fare when we reach the age of your Mother or the age my own Mother reached. My wife's Mother is also in a Retirement Community but she appears to be having the time of her life busily manipulating everyone around to do her bidding and she is also in her 90's. Perhaps we'll revisit this blog at when we reach our 90's and give an update 'cos I cannot imagine not being connected via some form of digital technology to whomever is still around connecting with us and since I also have an American Extra Class Ham Radio License, perhaps we will avoid coming into our own “isolation and boredom” phase by chatting over the air with other old codgers at that time.

    Obviously the eventual outcome for all of us contributing here remains to be seen but this is very good food for thought: Thank you Arnold for presenting your views and experiences because this is a subject that we all should consider before we find ourselves no longer in a position to do anything but become more and more dependent upon our children and our retirement home inmates for social sustenance. As they say on TV: To be continued…

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    Thanks for sharing this Peter.

    I think this is an undertold and important story…not only to understand our parents but to work to fix for the next generations.

    I'm very optimistic that there will be an intersection of health and exercise making life longer with social connections and communities that will create a bridge to continued productivity and interests.

    I've encouraged friends to push this post around as I think just maybe, it can spur some thought and who knows, even some action.

    Again thanks

  • http://www.missi.com/ Peter Beddows

    Thank you Again Arnold. I appreciate your kindness. I also agree with all of the points you have made.

    As a society just beginning to face, and belatedly respond to, the impact of the burgeoning of Baby Boomer generation reaching retirement, there is no question that we are just beginning to see the tip of an iceberg of an unprecedented social change and challenge.

    Your willingness to post your thoughts and open the potential for discussion is a very important contribution to help us all find new ways to deal with what may lie ahead for ourselves, our society and our economy in the years immediately ahead now.

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    Thnx again Peter…

    Shows again now powerful these communities of discussion are.

  • http://www.victusspiritus.com/ Mark Essel

    Your post has elicited fine comments all around Arnold, a testament to it's importance.

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    Thnx Mark.

    Passion drives value at times…

    I sent this along to Huffington Post at the request of a bunch of readers to push this out to a broader audience so we will see.

  • Cindy

    While I know that you are musing primarily about the power of social networks to engender community and the potential of such contact to sustain us as we age, what comes through so clearly is your deep caring and thoughtfulness about your mother. I don't want to lose sight of that! It's easy, once our parents are ensconced in a safe environment, to stop being overly concerned with the quality of their lives and to lose touch with the deep questions about what it means to be alive. For you, and so many others, being in community with others has taken on new meanings. And end of life questions have become over-medicalized (See Atul Gawande's fabulous piece in a recent New Yorker–Letting Go). So, I am glad you're raising questions about the richness of life!

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    Great to read this comment Cindy…especially from someone who has known me for a remarkably long time.

    And yes, my feelings for my mother are very strong and spending time with her as she is in her 90s has been really amazing for me. Remarkable women in many ways and has engendered a lot of thinking…including the ideas in this post.

    I'll check out the New Yorker piece and we should talk more over a glass of wine one of these days for certain.

  • Jbeerman50

    I am an avid facebook user, and a real fan of AW's blogs. This one in particular touched me, perhaps because it speaks to my own situtation, a situtation many of us can relate to. Aside from that, a thought struck me as I read through all the comments. How many baby boomers are comfortable with this form of social interaction? We have seen the numbers of boomer facebook users increase over time. However, if I look at my friends list…only a small percentage of them are actively posting and commenting. At times a do searches for people I'd like to be in touch with again. Only on ocassion do I strike “gold”. Where are they? There is still discomfort among many. Will this be a social network for our generation as we age?

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    Thnx for the comments and the vote of confidence. Most appreciated.

    I saw some data somewhere very recently that spoke to a huge influx of baby boomers onto the social web and Facebook in particular…so I think it is happening and happening in a big way. And I'm a believer that it will have a positive impact on community and productivity and life generally.

    But I think that communities are needed beyond Facebook and would like to see more effort made to fund and build them and have reached out to folks to prod this idea forward.

    If you want, please feel free to pass this post and comments forward to your friends. I think that this is a storm in the brewing and maybe this can help get it started.

  • Jiles

    Thank you Arnold for such a thought provoking and powerful piece of writing

    What you say about the internet is of course true. I love communicating with people all over the world when all the time I live in a small village in Champagne, France.

    My wife and I lived here for 8 years a while back then returned to the UK in 2004. One of the main reasons for us going back 'home' was that my wife was bored and frustrated by rural life in France and felt isolated – sure we had many visitors and plenty of French friends, but few of them shared either her background or her interests.

    For all sorts of reasons we find oursleves back here again in the same house 5 years later but now a lot has changed thanks mainly to the Internet and social networking.

    Both my wife and I are active on all sorts of networks for business and pleasure and these days if you're at ease with computers you can have a global network of friends and stay in touch with them all but……

    The other day we got to realise that for all the wonders of the Web we could spend a lot more time getting to know the people in our village better.

    How many of us surf the web for hours on end, have dozens, perhaps hundreds of Facebook friends and still don't say hello to our neighbours- particularly in cities? Is this because they don't share our interests or is it because we've never bothered to find out?

    There's still nothing quite like actually meeting people so although we wouldn't be without the internet we've also decided to spend a little more time in our local community too

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    Hi Jiles and thanks so much for your comments.

    I agree with you…while social networks extend our reach and our on-line friendships, friends and family and real in-flesh contacts are the core of life.

    I think the geo check in services are working towards connecting the power of online communities with the reality of daily life, the information rich view of people from the internet and the clarity and simplicity of meeting and touching people daily.

    I think this discussion will go on forever…there is no right nor wrong answer but the discussion itself is just really important.

  • http://www.missi.com/ Peter Beddows

    Aside from agreeing with Arnold's reply to your message Jiles, in reading your message reminded me of something that I had not really thought much about before reading your comment and, coincidentally, before an an event that occurred here in my Southern California neigbourhood this morning which triggered me into writing this response to your observation.

    I was out walking this morning in my neighbourhood (which is a cul-de-sac at the top of a hill) consisting of 2-story condominiums, 8 units to a building, four buildings on the street, ergo 32 potential “families” or households here; not so many that you could not know over time at least a few who is who. Really!

    Being relatively gregarious, as I walked up to the gate separating our side of the hill from developments on the other side, two women walking dogs where coming over from the other side of the hill and I stopped to talk with them.

    My wife and I have lived here now for the past 7+ years: In that time, we have gotten to know our immediate 3 next door neighbours “somewhat”! Largely because access to our respective garages is communal and adjacent to each other. Who else lives on our street? You probably know them as well as we do!

    Incredibly, however, through this chance encounter this morning with these two people from the other side of the hill, I have now finally found out the name of the woman who lives in the far end unit of our own street which is less than 1/4 mile away from our unit at the beginning of the street the whole length of which I walk most mornings. What makes it particularly incredible is that I do know the name of the woman's dog because she walks from her end of the street – the end of the cul-de-sac – with her dog to our beginning end of the street at least twice a day!

    But every day I spend hours inside working, using the computer on which I am currently writing this. My day typically includes emailing, twittering, Facebook, LinkedIn activity amongst other computer related stuff once I have done my morning walk: Hence, learning a neighbors name from passing visitors from the other side of the hill after 7+ years here brings into stark relief the reality of how really cut off/isolated we now are from each other while situated so close to each other. Meanwhile I have a few FB Friends, twitter and LinkedIn connections on the East Coast and back in the UK that I know much more about than I do about my own local neighbours.

    On the other hand, I'm also a licensed, though currently not active, ham (licensed amateur radio operator): Relevance? In contacting people via ham radio literally all over the world, first from my old home back in the UK and later from the US, I can say that I got to know the people I talked to over the air far better than I now know my immediate neighbors.

    So from my own particular experiences it seems very clear that spending time today connecting to others via the internet really is far more isolating than perhaps any of us realize because how many people today actually have contrasting experiences that bring into awareness how different today's “Friendly” internet based connections with each other really are versus how they once were before the advent of FB, MySpace, etc.

    Hence, I completely agree with you Jiles: As you suggest, “we (all) could (very beneficially) spend a lot more time getting to know the people in our (own) village better”; to actually do that could be a very worthwhile use of our time in the long run.

    BTW: My parents used to travel with caravan from London to spend summer in various parts of Europe, including France, so I feel I can somewhat relate to the experience that your Wife and you have had in oscillating between the choice to live in the UK of France. They always made a point of getting to know “the natives” in each locale that they stayed.

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    Thanks Peter

    What a great discussion!

    It goes both ways I guess but I'm an optimistic embracer of new technology and believe that we are better for it.

    Do we all get a bit ADD with new tech and checking in and too much time online? Sure…but this will work itself out and I still hold strong to my premise that this is an enricher of life and that different people will strike different balances between all of these aspects.

    It's early days…a lot more pieces of the puzzle are coming together. What we can't do is become reactionary and reject new tech. What we must to is to adopt it to how each of us want to live.

  • http://automatedsocialnetworking.com Robert Portman

    It tells that even in a long time friendship and relationship didn't die until your death just like in social networking even if your business failed there are alliances and partner that willing to help you up and start from beginning.

  • http://www.missi.com/ Peter Beddows

    Completely agree Arnold: Very interesting subject you have raised here. I also suspect I can now add ADD to my own list of challenges. LOL!

  • http://twitter.com/ReachThemOnline laurie and debz

    I'm over 60, and I'm a Social Media Manager. I thought you might find this blog post interesting. It is the first of several articles on the subject. Laurie Owen

    http://www.ivantemelkov.com/like-fine-aged-wine-people-over-50-add-flavor-to-social-media/#more-843

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    ;)

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    Thanks Laurie…I'll check out your blog.

  • http://afinanceguy.com afinanceguy

    Great post Arnold. At present, our older generations are getting screwed. As you point out, their communities are evaporating as their friends die off. On the other hand their families are becoming less and less engaged with them as connections online and with tech in general distract and entertain.

    Kids don't want to go to Grandma's because she doesn't have wifi or a PS3. Grandma is irrelevant because she isn't a net native, doesn't lol, and doesn't text her grandkids. These days if you aren't on Facebook and don't text, you are largely invisible outside of in-person interactions. The levels of connection and engagement that younger generations expect and even demand puts a double hurt on our older generations.

    It takes hours spread over days (at least) to teach people things that are completely new. For example I just finished cleaning up a giant milk and Cheerio puddle that resulted from my attention lapsing as I let my daughter feed herself a bowl of Cheerios while typing this reply. We regularly put the time into children as we see their whole lives ahead of them. With grandparents we often pass on these opportunities because they are old and it would be hard. How many of us will take the time to find a phone with ergonomics that Grandpa can handle for texting? With a menu system that he can navigate? Who will take the time to make a quick reference sheet on letter paper with 30 point font that spells out the meanings of lol, fml, smh, etc.? (big market opportunity in this general space – senior tech learning/use)

    Unless we take the time to engage with our older generations, we will only have ourselves to blame when they are gone and we wonder why we didn't know them better.

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    This post has really touched a lot of people…and in uniquely different ways.

    And has inspired many to share their thoughts in the comments.

    Thanks much for sharing the stories about your family. It is important that each of us addresses what this means to our own families and our relationships to our parents and grandparents. And potentially spur some action.

  • http://www.nyoombl.com Dayo

    This is really thought provoking, Arnold. It got me thinking about the timeline of human kind and its relatedness to incremental intelligence of humans and machine.

    Whether it is historical events, data, travel, eating, conversation, or an activity dropping a kid off at school, the cumulative total of all of the events manufactured by the world's population from 1901 to 2000, is way less than the body of events manufactured by humans and machines from 2000 to 2010…and the latter by much fewer people, but more machines. I find this very interesting because of its import and consequences. I also think it may be the reason why generations seldom click: that chasm. There has been no generation (man or machine) that has been less intelligent overall than its predecessor, but the consequences of these include a strain on the older population in their bid to catch up, and a frustration by the younger population…a frustration caused by their inability to understand, for example, why they have to learn cursive. That is the chasm: a gap caused by the faster growth of machine intelligence behind which human intelligence lags.

    I feel, though, that when our current suite of technologies becomes mature and complete enough to serve as the infrastructure for higher forms of technologies like GNR (Genetics, Nanotechnology, and Robotics), only then can machine and human intelligence develop concurrently. I once had a silly dream that I walked into a hospital asking to update my RAM and that it was my right to get that update. That's scary, but I digress. The point, though, is that all imbalanced systems always strive towards equilibrium which is, itself, not stable (e.g. simple supply and demand) and so reverts back to imbalance.

    I feel we are still at a point of imbalance i.e. cell phones, social networks, video, refrigeration, flight…all these stuff we create…we are still in a phase of weaving what will later become the very fabric of futuristic technologies and the culmination of human existence. I mean, by 2099 (which is not that far away), could humans have contact lenses replace TV screens, monitors, phones etc? Or, could social network data become portable/rememberable merely by thinking? After all, hearing aids at some point were unimaginable and were a big deal.

    People lag behind technologies and when they think they are on a par, then a newer generation comes up with some newer technology. This imbalance/chasm will not continue though, since the two parties generally strive to equate. So, will we become more like machines (via contact lenses, implants, etc) or will machines take on more humanly emotional forms of intelligence? One thing is for sure, though: the intelligence of man and machine will someday equate … and it may cause an episode of struggle. I don't know.

    But great post, Arnold. This stuff makes me think. Thanks.

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    Thanks for this thoughtful comment.

    I think about technology and generational interactions somewhat differently. To me, technologies are platform that we sit on top of as bridges. The capabilities are catalysts to new behaviors and new connections.

    Although I was raised in a family of scientists and science fiction fanatics, I never look at the machine or platform as anything but subservient and empowering to new human capabilities.

    Great discussion. Thanks for sharing

  • http://twitter.com/denimsmith Denim Smith

    Hi Arnold.

    Really great post. We chatted on AVC and then I went MIA as my 96 year old grandma that I referenced in my AVC comment passed away 2+ weeks ago.

    My overall comment is that 'people are people and things change' and diminishing returns of networks are very real. Despite our world flattening through social nets and space-time shrinking due to the internet and technology, people are people. As we grow up from childhood we build our networks 'naturally', which is to say intimacy first (eg. family) and geographically constrained. We grow up with our siblings, cousins and neighbors as our friends + the kids in our classes at elementary and high school and in little league, etc. As we go off to college and join the workforce our networks naturally grow and are curated as we establish a number of different and mostly separate networks (social & interest graphs) with the people we connect with in real life. See Paul Adams 'The Real Life Social Networkv2' on Slideshare for a great overview.

    As we get even older and start our own families our intimate relationships tend to become streamlined. We focus on the family tree branch we're on as we build our own new branch from it – parents, siblings, grandparents and our closest friends at the core and aunt's and uncle's and cousin's start to become more distant as they too focus on their own branches (not many people have close relationships with their great uncles). e.g. My 1 year old daughter will grow up with her cousin's because my siblings and I are close and they are very much a big part of my life through this stage – that is, until my siblings and I are grandparents ourselves and our focus is on our forward family tree — and my kids' kids' will likely be growing up with their cousins (all my grandchildren), not my cousins or my kids' cousins.

    At the present time we're at an inflection point with tech, mobile and social networking as there are still a huge number of the population not versed in such things (that is, the elderly, today). This is a significant point in time because as the older population naturally passes, in time, the resulting population will be more and more tech savvy overall (not commenting on the continual evolution of tech but the *basics* of tech) and we all will have a digital footprint. The Facebook generation originally joined to connect with the people they were already connected to in person (at College, high school, etc.) and once FB went mainstream it also became the place where boomers could re-connect to old/ lost friends who weren’t connected via the internet over their lives (this is a one time phenomenon) and no one seemed to actively look for people using Classmates.com or the like. But these long lost friends became that way naturally for one reason or another and one cannot have 400 real friends – there's just not that much time in the day so we’re happy seeing snippets through FB newsfeed.

    The boomers were forced into learning new tech via the workforce through email, calendar, contacts, intranets and webapps, cell phones, Blackberries, et al, and through consumer electronics and entertainment like VCRs, CDs, DVDs, DVRs, ATMs, etc. And the dot.com bubble was a result of the real potential that this new tech would bring to the masses – but there is and was obvious friction and time was needed for the masses to absorb and learn naturally. Meanwhile the born digitals were growing up with Nintendo and the internet and are only now hitting the workforce and their formative years.

    When I am 99 years old I will experience the natural reversal of what I mentioned above – the people I am intimate with and who are older will naturally die – my parents and grandparents, etc. My siblings and I will have the pleasure of watching and interacting with our own forward family trees – my kids, grandkids, great grandkids, etc. Time and age will have the same affects on our networks then as it does today and our priorities and wisdom will direct us to what’s most important in life – our intimate relationships – for which FB was never needed to nurture.

    The product I am building is an intimacy platform that is private first, but interactive with those you choose to be intimate with – and can cut cross your different graphs if you choose – it’s the intimacy that matters today until you die (and even after). One of the biggest benefits of tech that is rarely talked about is that, today, I can connect at least 6 generations of my family (alive or deceased). My grandmother who just passed away has less than 500 photos – her as a child with her parents, her with her children (my dad), her with her grandchildren (me), and her with her great grandchildren (my daughter) + my daughter’s future children and their children (my daughter's grandchildren will grow up with information about everything she was over her life – from ultrasound photo and marriage to retirement and everything in-between, etc.). Think ancestry.com for current day and going forward. For its not the lack of information (ancestry.com) we have to worry about going forward but the significant amount of information that we’re all creating over our lifetimes and cutting through to the true meaning. Happy to provide more information once I have the alpha up which should be by May. I am very excited at the prospects and cannot wait to unveil it as I truly believe my product is not a *game* changer but a *life* changer.

    Sorry for being so cryptic and for the long post.

    Denim

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    Denim

    First, my condolences on your grandmother's passing. My mom is 92 now and seeing her every month is one of the reasons I move back to NYC from LA. As you can tell by my posts and comments, the connection to my immigrant past is very important to me.

    Your comment is yes…long and cryptic, but intriguing.

    Let me know when you are ready to share it with me. I'm ready.

    Thanks again.

  • http://twitter.com/denimsmith Denim Smith

    Thanks Arnold.
    Again sorry about the length – was trying to shed my perspective on your post and speak a bit about my web app as well.

    It is obvious that you're mother's (parents?) stories are a significant part of who you are and most likely resonate to your children and grandchildren as well (assuming you have kids and they have kids or will have kids). I believe its our generations' responsibility to not lose the rich oral history that personalizes the struggle and journey of our families that are just 1 and/or 2 generations removed and that we love and care so deeply about – particularly in immigrant countries like the USA and Canada. So much has happened so fast over the past century and we cannot move into the future without respecting our past and unknowingly create a digital dark age –with the available technology today we can (and should) do this now and forever and for the betterment of our respective families and society as a whole.
    With the last WW1 vet passing this year, and the older generation lost or misrepresented on the web we need to ensure their influence is not lost on future generations and the inmates take over the asylum. Referring not only to life lessons and rich experiences but also to the mores and values and respect that the 'greatest generation' represents and can and should teach us indefinitely.

    My start-up is called My Internet Corporation ('mi') and is structured to be user-centric and in-favor of the users in all use cases (data ownership, control, privacy, TOS, user bill of rights, data liberation, etc.). The product we are launching is called mi Lifemap (or 'my internet' Lifemap) and is a consumer storage and archiving platform that maps all of your digital media on to a smart timeline that can be tagged, searched, and shared discreetly amongst family and intimate lifelong relationships (or anyone you choose really). A Lifemap is set up to seamlessly organize all of your content (scanned analogue & digital) to easily recall and for reflection over your entire life and to ultimately pass your life’s story to your family posthumously like an ancestry.com for today's born-digital families. Initially we will be targeting new and young families and their new boomer grandparents – with subaccounts for babies and small children and/or non-tech elderly or predeceased family members. In addition to a smart timeline you can build your life milestones, tag-based yearbooks, private diaries, etc. and post to and pull in shared content from other open social nets – regardless of the app du jour today or in 50 years. That's it in a nutshell – we're using the tag line: An Everlasting Vision of Your Ever Changing View. Finalizing the alpha and looking to launch the beta at the end of May {FYI I will probably delete this commentary after a few days to keep out of the public domain and under wraps until launch}.Interested to hear any initial thoughts you may have and I am also working with a group out of NYC and am there regularly and if you're interested I would like to invite you for a cocktail or coffee to discuss further sometime down the road.

    Denim

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    Thanks Denim

    Sure, when in NY ping me.

    I was raised in an immigrant family so I get this certainly. My mom is the last of the core family.

    The issue is always the magic, the thing that makes people happy to use the service and fulfills a pent up need.

    So, yes there's a need. Will it be the thing that naturally is where we want to share this type of experience….I'll tell you when I try it.

    I touch on this process of discovery for early stage products in yesterday's post if you have not seen it:

    “The best marketing strategy is dynamic execution” @ http://bt.io/GrYO

    Thanks again for sharing in so much detail.