Social commerce: e-commerce for Facebook fan pages

May 2nd, 2010 | Leave a comment

Social commerce is a compelling idea that has been floating around for awhile. I first engaged with it on AVC.com (thanks Fred!) and have been thinking and talking about it as a way to explore how the community itself can become a business model.

With Facebook arguably the new desktop for the connected social world, all the reasons that fan pages should work as promotional websites for brands, make them work equally as well for social commerce. Huge population of users. Hours spent online per day per user. And social etiquette as the behavioral norm.

What is social commerce?

It is a dynamic online version of shopping with friends…but on the global, real-time Facebook stage. The intersection of community, commerce, social dynamics…and fun, where the influence and opinion of friends drives the transaction. A pure community referral-based economy.

Did this start with social media? Sort of…but I think it is important to make a distinction between social media and community elements that will make social commerce a success. Commerce will come out of community. Social is simply the design language that defines the interaction within the community.

Community storefronts as the commercial doorway for Facebook fan pages

Is social commerce and community shopping the next big leap for Facebook and the social web?

Commerce on Facebook fan pages is popping up more frequently but most pages are not really social in their orientation. More catalog than community. The Gap Lookbook and Travelocity Travel Deals are two interesting ones to check out though. But examples are scarce, and even moreso outside of the large global brands.

But I do believe that social commerce is coming like a storm to Facebook. And sooner than we think.

Three reasons why social commerce could become the new e-commerce platform for Facebook

There are no certainties but these are the top reasons why I’m a believer.

1. Shopping is a large part of socialization…and it’s mostly absent as a community activity within Facebook today. There are hundreds of millions of users spending hours online per day. Why aren’t they shopping with friends? The social need is certainly there.

Marc Pincus, founder of Zynga, created Farmville and a social gaming empire to give people on social networks something to do. Shopping is as natural as social gaming, universal in its appeal and crosses every segment of the Facebook population.

2. Social commerce as a community driven referral-economy is already working today on the open web. The best example is the exploding social selling, deal-a-day, local, discount markets.

Popularized by the Groupon and LivingSocial, scores of people (including myself) are engaging in socially-driven, deal-a-day discount local commerce. Social commerce in the guise of social selling is most certainly thriving on the open web.

Common sense indicates that this approach, adopted to a community brand strategy, could work equally as well (or maybe better) within already established brand communities like Facebook. It’s fun and social on the open web…why not on a Facebook fan page?

3. There is a natural synergy between e-commerce catalogs on the open web and Facebook. The logistics systems and catalogs are in place, all that is needed is to bring it to the community with social understanding and community dynamics. Not very simple but certainly doable.

The basic rule for businesses and marketers is to bring your product to where your customers are. They are already on Facebook in mass numbers. They are already fans of your products and services. And already referring your brands to their friends. It is time to start to figure out how to build a community-based commerce system for your fan page community.

Social commerce today is a big idea but it will become real…and quickly

In a recent post, I called Facebook fan pages the Wild West for brands and businesses. It’s still early and there are no guidelines for success. Social commerce may be even more embryonic.

Or maybe not.

Today most Facebook fan pages are boring. We Like them more out of courtesy and the need to belong, rather than the community value that we participate in. It’s hard to make them interesting because there is little to do there. For an inexplicable reason how we socialize with our friends on profile pages doesn’t seem as natural or fulfilling on fan pages.

Travelocity putting commerce on their fan page is not brilliance…it’s logical (although their design approach is questionable). But purchasing their next trip may be exactly what fans want to do, while they post pictures of their vacations and chat with their friends about where to go.

Maybe social commerce with its built-in ROI is a missing link for the social graph. Transactions are measurable by nature…and the goods and services that we built our allegiance to brands on, were in many cases, based on our purchases and the buying experience itself. Figuring out commerce and its intersection with community is a potential way of building some measurements into the social paradigm. And nothing is more measurable than revenue.

Social media and communities have immense value in their own right. No denying the importance of community for brands and businesses. But if we can figure out commerce as the natural offshoot of community, then truly everyone wins.

Companies will build more brand loyalty and stronger communities. Fans will socialize and shop. And businesses will do what they do best… build value for themselves from the value they provide through their products and services.

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  • http://richstaats.com/ Rich Staats

    I wonder what happens when every brand adds some sort of commerce app to their FB fan page, and begin to deploy campaigns that drive their “fans or likes, whatever” to these landing pages on FB rather than their wall, or a more natural place for the user to interact WITH the brand. Most users are savvy enough to sniff out the difference between a brand who genuinely cares: one who reaches out to fans for suggestions/customer service (where I truly see Social Media in the Enterprise), with those who are blatantly looking to make sales. They come to some conclusion based off who knows that 4% of Fans will buy on FB, so their goal becomes to reach enough fans to level a good ROI based on that metric. Meanwhile they piss of the rest of us, and eventually we unlike them.

    What makes more sense to me would be to dynamically create marketplaces on FB based on the merchants you follow, as well as suggestions to FB store fronts that your friends also like. This way you opt in to the process, yet you still only shop from brands you decided to like, and those that your friends think you might like. Something like a virtual personal shopper, only with the potential of having all of your connected friends involved in the decision making: A button that says, “Ask a friend what they think”. And then you post to their wall with a little thumbnail. Maybe this goes viral and when you reconnect to FB you're greeted with, “25 of your friends think you should buy that shirt, or snowboard, etc”. And furthermore, a company could watch this process and, since the user has opted into a relationship with the brand, they could offer a coupon for this product to further entice you. Think about it from the brand's view. If the average FB user has 100 fans (i think this might be more now) and 25 of your friends posted something about it, then 2,500 connected people have potentially caught a glimpse of your product in the stream, as if they were endorsing it.

    Really, this is all a freestyle rant, with nothing to back it up. My Monday Morning Rant, I suppose.

    As always, good article.

    Rich

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    Hi Rich

    or should I say, “Ranting Rich” ;)

    Couple of responses:

    -Friends per user is higher now. This is the Facebook stats page that updates this type of info… http://www.facebook.com/press/info.php?statistics

    -The individual holds absolute power to 'friend' or 'unfriend'. I love this and in some ways is more powerful than opting in or opting out as it is a public statement (at least in opting in by friending). Social media is so great because it focuses the center of the bullseye on the customer…and brands that play stupid or game us, will loose. It truly is power to the people…and has changed the rules for the better.

    -You are smartly pointing in your comment about 'community' to something Facebook launched but hasn't done much about yet, call 'community pages'. Basically a community-sourced inside Facebook version of old-school crowd sourcing. You'll notice that 'snowboards' will become a community page rather than a brand page owned by someone.

    I'm going to think on this and maybe post on this. If you dig into this, do share your thoughts or links

    Thanks as always for your insights. These exchanges are fun and drive more thinking which is the goal.

  • http://richstaats.com/ Rich Staats

    ah the number is at 130. Thanks for the link to that page, I hadn't seen that before.

    My biggest concern with social commerce, especially as it pertains to FB, is that as it becomes a trend, a viable option, and then an imperative, brands will dive in without thinking about their “brand to fan” (B2F) relationships prior to the store front. I watched an omniture webinar this weekend with National Geographic (http://www.omniture.com/offer/642) and it showed that social media marketing drove a very low percentage of their overall sales, aside from one random spike indirectly related to their plan. However they have seen it to be a worthwhile practice for brand management and answering their audience directly. I think we can create an argument that people connect with brands for a few reasons, but to get a “deal” might not be at the top of the list. Instead it might be to feel they are a part of the community that creates a brand's image, or to see what they are up to on a regular basis (they think the brand is cool, or forward thinking, or experimental). In fact i bet a large number of fans are already customers, possibly repeating.

    I figure I am a rare breed since I look at social media (FB) as a business strategy more than most people, but I am very specific to who I fan up (or like). I get it that making it “like” instead of “fan of” we are more likely to connect with that brand, but I see that as a nuisance as much as a benefit. On my snowboard pub fan page, I try to monitor who becomes a fan, and then check to see how many pages they like, or have fan'd. When I see someone who has very few fan pages, but a high number of friends, I tend to consider them a more valuable fan, and one who is more likely to engage. Though I haven't seen a huge flux in fans since the “like” was implemented, I imagine I will start to see fans of a lesser value.

    If I were to obtrusively throw in social commerce, I doubt it would be successful, and I worry that I might lose those “quality fans” by trying to blatantly monetize.

    I think creating a marketplace that offers deals from ALL of the brands that I like, fan'd (one that is created and tailored for me) I might spend more time shopping around WHEN I DECIDE I WANT TO SHOP (i.e, if i decided i wanted a new pair of sneakers, and browse through my marketplace i might also buy a shirt too (from a different brand).

    Does that make any sense? BTW definitely check out that video if you get a chance, the random and indirect reason they got a huge sale day is a phenomenon of social media in and of itself.

    Rich

  • http://twitter.com/davidmgoodlin David Goodlin

    Rich,

    I recently watched a webinar put on by marketing profs showing that 70% of people become a fan because they do want a deal. Only 30% of these people were in it for the entertainment and community love.

    Working with social media in the travel industry is much different than a industry selling tangible items. For example, we truly get to take advantage of being able to send localized updates to places where we have more competitive rates than any other airline. Also, I can connect someone who is interested in traveling to say – New Zealand – to a travel expert of New Zealand in our contact center leading to much higher conversions rates than just a regular “call this number to book.” We also use facebook and twitter as a great way to answer people's questions about hotel ratings, tour details, flight restrictions and eligibility, etc. We've also used discussion groups to get random people together to book trips together and get a better group rate. Not only is it a great tool to sell, but it is amazing for our CRM.

    People who love to travel generally love to share their knowledge of their travels, stories, pictures, and more. So, we have a lot of people who are our fans just to get inspired through others to travel even though they may have never purchased from us, or even heard of us.

    I could go on and on, but i'll leave it at that.

    -David

  • http://richstaats.com/ Rich Staats

    Can you link to that webinar, or maybe a .pdf?

    this is super interesting because it uses personalized customer service to entice a sale and I imagine works well: “I can connect someone who is interested in traveling to say – New Zealand – to a travel expert of New Zealand in our contact center leading to much higher conversions rates than just a regular 'call this number to book.'”

    “We've also used discussion groups to get random people together to book trips together and get a better group rate. Not only is it a great tool to sell, but it is amazing for our CRM.” — This is a really interesting example of social commerce, and would love to see it as a case study.

    Rich

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    Rich

    I'm not a proponent of commerce at all costs nor the mandate to find measurements as justification for social media. You know my thinking and that is not me.

    I do believe commerce has a place…and potentially a big one. But I”m not afraid of it becoming an 'imperative' because this is Facebook and the social graph and people have the ability to not accept and unfriend. That is why I think the brands that succeed will do so smartly and their communities will define the commerce bar. Those that don't will just fail and go away…at least in this environment.

    I'm still not certain I'm there with your marketplace…but thinking about it.

    As regards the value of a 'friend'. This thinking has precedence and is a carryover measurement thought from the value of a link on the open web. An SEO concept. I do believe that mixing strong value and lesser value links or friends will actually increase the overall value of the community which will feed on itself and create stronger community ties.

    We should have a workshop on some of these topics. Would be fun and informative.

    BTW-I”ll check out the video for certain.

  • http://richstaats.com/ Rich Staats

    a workshop sounds great.

    “I do believe that mixing strong value and lesser value links or friends will actually increase the overall value of the community which will feed on itself and create stronger community ties.” — I never thought of it this way

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    The whole concept of connected value is a step beyond what SEO taught us.

    If Facebook ever/or when Facebook opens NFO (News Feed Optimization) so that it is no longer a black box but something that we can understand and utilize, a lot more tools will be given to us as marketers to better figure out how to reach new customers on Facebook.

    Facebook is great to go deep and strengthen relationships; harder to broaden and make new ones.

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    Hi David.

    Yup hard goods and services are two sides of the paradigm. Well stated.

    But there are certain subjects, hard or service that just drive passion and engender community. Travel certainly, but snow boards and a passion for the equipment that drives the sports as well.

    Your statement that travel enables you to create group buying circumstances even though the people are not socially connected is interesting…and I think probably unique to your biz.

    Thanks for sharing this info.

  • http://twitter.com/davidmgoodlin David Goodlin

    Rich,

    I recently watched a webinar put on by marketing profs showing that 70% of people become a fan because they do want a deal. Only 30% of these people were in it for the entertainment and community love.

    Working with social media in the travel industry is much different than a industry selling tangible items. For example, we truly get to take advantage of being able to send localized updates to places where we have more competitive rates than any other airline. Also, I can connect someone who is interested in traveling to say – New Zealand – to a travel expert of New Zealand in our contact center leading to much higher conversions rates than just a regular “call this number to book.” We also use facebook and twitter as a great way to answer people's questions about hotel ratings, tour details, flight restrictions and eligibility, etc. We've also used discussion groups to get random people together to book trips together and get a better group rate. Not only is it a great tool to sell, but it is amazing for our CRM.

    People who love to travel generally love to share their knowledge of their travels, stories, pictures, and more. So, we have a lot of people who are our fans just to get inspired through others to travel even though they may have never purchased from us, or even heard of us.

    I could go on and on, but i'll leave it at that.

    -David

  • http://richstaats.com/ Rich Staats

    Can you link to that webinar, or maybe a .pdf?

    this is super interesting because it uses personalized customer service to entice a sale and I imagine works well: “I can connect someone who is interested in traveling to say – New Zealand – to a travel expert of New Zealand in our contact center leading to much higher conversions rates than just a regular 'call this number to book.'”

    “We've also used discussion groups to get random people together to book trips together and get a better group rate. Not only is it a great tool to sell, but it is amazing for our CRM.” — This is a really interesting example of social commerce, and would love to see it as a case study.

    Rich

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    Rich

    I'm not a proponent of commerce at all costs nor the mandate to find measurements as justification for social media. You know my thinking and that is not me.

    I do believe commerce has a place…and potentially a big one. But I”m not afraid of it becoming an 'imperative' because this is Facebook and the social graph and people have the ability to not accept and unfriend. That is why I think the brands that succeed will do so smartly and their communities will define the commerce bar. Those that don't will just fail and go away…at least in this environment.

    I'm still not certain I'm there with your marketplace…but thinking about it.

    As regards the value of a 'friend'. This thinking has precedence and is a carryover measurement thought from the value of a link on the open web. An SEO concept. I do believe that mixing strong value and lesser value links or friends will actually increase the overall value of the community which will feed on itself and create stronger community ties.

    We should have a workshop on some of these topics. Would be fun and informative.

    BTW-I”ll check out the video for certain.

  • http://richstaats.com/ Rich Staats

    a workshop sounds great.

    “I do believe that mixing strong value and lesser value links or friends will actually increase the overall value of the community which will feed on itself and create stronger community ties.” — I never thought of it this way

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    The whole concept of connected value is a step beyond what SEO taught us.

    If Facebook ever/or when Facebook opens NFO (News Feed Optimization) so that it is no longer a black box but something that we can understand and utilize, a lot more tools will be given to us as marketers to better figure out how to reach new customers on Facebook.

    Facebook is great to go deep and strengthen relationships; harder to broaden and make new ones.

  • http://arnoldwaldstein.com awaldstein

    Hi David.

    Yup hard goods and services are two sides of the paradigm. Well stated.

    But there are certain subjects, hard or service that just drive passion and engender community. Travel certainly, but snow boards and a passion for the equipment that drives the sports as well.

    Your statement that travel enables you to create group buying circumstances even though the people are not socially connected is interesting…and I think probably unique to your biz.

    Thanks for sharing this info.